What We Mostly Didnt Like About The Defenders. The Defenders mini series made its Netflix debut Friday, bringing together Luke Cage, Jessica Jones, Daredevil and Iron Fist as Marvels street level super team. We assembled Gita Jackson and Mike Fahey to discuss what worked, what didnt, and how horrible Danny Rand is. Cult Comedy Movies The Inhumans. So horrible. The Defenders Spoilers Follow. Fahey So, Gita. I was following your tweets this weekend, and I am under the impression that you werent 1. The Defenders. Is that correct, or was I reading the really mean things you were saying wrong Gita Mike, I was not overall thrilled by The Defenders. I/61-7Y-3aOuL._SR600%2C315_PIWhiteStrip%2CBottomLeft%2C0%2C35_PIStarRatingFOURANDHALF%2CBottomLeft%2C360%2C-6_SR600%2C315_ZA(30%20Reviews)%2C445%2C286%2C400%2C400%2Carial%2C12%2C4%2C0%2C0%2C5_SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg' alt='Buy Danny Says Movie Online' title='Buy Danny Says Movie Online' />I was expecting a lot of campy fan service, and I got that, but I also just got a whole lot of bad show. Fahey That is impossible, Gita. This is a Netflix Marvel show. They can do no wrong. Except Iron Fist. And large chunks of the second season of Daredevil. But other than that, the track record is perfect. How could it be bad Gita I actually really thought about this while I was watching the show because, you know, despite some weird missteps, I like three out of the four characters on screen. And we know that some of them have great chemistry and banter already. But it felt like I was getting a diluted version of four different shows, each with wildly different aesthetics, and it was like eating under seasoned mashed potatoes. Tickets for Concerts, Sports, Theatre and More Online at TicketsInventory. The latest news articles from Billboard Magazine, including reviews, business, pop, hiphop, rock, dance, country and more. Wedding bells will ring for Danny Gokey and girlfriend Leyicet Peralta on Jan. Tuesday, and now come exclusive details on the engagement. Luke Plunkett. Luke Plunkett is a Contributing Editor based in Canberra, Australia. He has written a book on cosplay, designed a game about airplanes, and also runs. Like, its in my mouth, its a food I enjoy, but I cannot describe it to you if asked. Fahey I see where youre coming from. I certainly got that vibe during the first of the eight episodes, which felt like four distinct shows with distinct voices, soundtracks and shooting styles getting mashed together. My dissatisfaction mainly stems from the fact that the entire event is the culmination of my two least favorite story lines from the Netflix shows. Our film critics on blockbusters, independents and everything in between. Daredevils battle against the Hand, and Iron Fists battles against the Hand. I guess what I am saying is the Hand is not a good enemy. Gita For the life of me, I could not care about the Hand. I just really do not give a shit about the Hand at all. The show seemed to assume Id care from the jumpany time Jessica or Luke asked what the Hand does thats bad, Matt and Danny would both say, Everything. Sure, they do everything bad. Thats bad. But like, give me some specifics Fahey I cant, Gita. Theyre too bad, the things the Hand does. So bad. Gita If the Hand were an organization that personally stole one of my socks so I never had matching pairs, I would care. But apparently they just have a hand ugh in every pot of evilness to the point where Im like, you must be joking, right Fahey The plot is basically that the Hand is going to destroy New York City in order to get a mysterious substance that keeps the five core members immortal. To do this, they use up the last of the substance to bring Elektra, the Black Sky, back to life. Amazon. com Machete Danny Trejo, Steven Seagal, Robert De Niro, Michelle Rodriguez, Jessica Alba, Jeff Fahey, Cheech Marin, Don Johnson, Lindsay Lohan, Robert. Why Because they need her. For reasons. Gita I felt really bad for the actress playing Elektra. As you mentioned, the back half of Daredevil season two has issues, but Elektra was this weird, electric ball of energy and joy in a plot that suddenly made no sense. I didnt know why she did the things she did, but by golly, I had fun watching her. Here, shes mute, lifeless, boring, glum. Fahey She gets a bit better towards the back end, and that electricity is still there, but there never is a real explanation of what role she is supposed to play in the Hands plans. She is a weapon, but she doesnt seem to have any supernatural abilities. All five fingers of the Hand are highly skilled martial artists, so it doesnt make sense theyd squander their life juice to make a sixth. How far did you get in the seriesGita I just checked NetflixI think I tuckered out around the middle of episode six. After realizing that the show didnt really get going for me until episode four I gave it another two episodes and I was like. I care about this, actuallyI love dumb fan service. I live for that. But I was just bored. I was so bored. Fahey I understand stopping. I watched the series between naps. Then you didnt see the fate of Alexandra Sigourney Weaver Gita I didnt I did like Sigourneyshe always does so much with so little. And she was having a lot of fun being evil. Please, spoil me. Fahey Elektra murders her with sais. Gita You were typing for so long I really thought it was, like, a little more than sword murder. I am laughing so hard in the office. Fahey Yeah, I did that for effect. Gita Thank you, Fahey. Thank you. Fahey I mean, she had to see it coming, acting like a mother figure to a deadly assassin named after a character from Greek mythology famous for PLOTTING THE MURDER OF HER MOTHER. Gita But yeah, there is a real pay off problem in The. Defenders. We see Luke in the first episode, and hes just like, not in jail anymore. Its a thing they built up and the payoff is oh hes fine. Colleen gets stabbed by her suddenly not dead anymore mentor, and he just leaves, and shes also fine. Sigourney gets sword murdered. Fahey But yes, Elektra kills Alexandra and assumes leadership of the Hand. This changes absolutely nothing concerning the Hands plans to destroy New York. It doesnt mean Elektra is suddenly having second thoughts about being evil. Lets talk hero motivation. Luke wants to keep the kids of Harlem from being used and discarded by the Hand. Noble as fuck. Jessica takes a case from a woman whose husband, the architect of the Hands office building, has gone missing. The guy gets murdered in her office. She wants to make sure the family is safe and get answers. Detective as fuck. Daredevil wants his girlfriend back. Hes just horny. And Iron Fist wants revenge for the destruction of a city no one cares about at all. This is your Danny Rand cue. Gita Yeah thats a pretty good summation. Every time Danny meets someone new, he has to explain Kun Lun again and at least later they start getting some good jokes out of it but, holy shit. Still dont care about Kun Lun, my dude I think I could have tolerated Defenders if Finn Jones wasnt a complete charisma void. He just has no screen presence, hes bad at fight scenes, I dont believe the conviction of his actions, and his character is just so stupid. Fahey Hes so grim about everything. And I get ithis imaginary home in the sky is destroyed. But also he has cool martial arts powers and a bajillion dollars. I cannot feel sympathy for a guy who goes from shoeless to billionaire and still whines. Its my sacred duty Oh shut up. You have a cool new friend. Just enjoy your new friend. He makes your fist glow. My wife and I decided the fist is his Better Superhero Detector. Gita Hahahaha, thats pretty great. Props to your wife. Fahey Like in the office sceneone of the two best in the mini series. He just cant get it up, then Luke Cage arrives. Gita That office scene was pretty great. I think they finally figured out how to shoot Finn Joness fight scenes though he is quickly outclassed by everyone else. The key was not quick cuts, but good angles and having the stunt people really over act taking the punch. Fahey Theres a bit in the final act, where the group is surrounded. Luke says to Danny, Light it up, and Danny punches the air and everyone goes flying. This was episode eight. Danny finally gets good in the final episode, after being completely insufferable the rest of the time. Gita Im trying, desperately, to come up with a response to this. But Im just floored. Fahey Did you catch the fight in episode sixGita I think I was asleep by that point, to be honest. Unless youre talking warehouse redux. Fahey The fight between Danny and everybody else Gita Okay yeah, sorry, the other problem I have with this show is that its visually indistinct and horribly shot, so everything blends together and I cant remember what happened when. Fahey You have a point. I kept re watching bits Id already seen, unsure if Id already seen them. Music News Billboard.